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10/24/2009

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Anon

An interesting opposing view. I think the core difference of opinion b/w Profs. Boudreau and Bainbridge come down to whether individual stocks are close substitutes -- i.e., Prof. Bainbridge suggests that I might be just as happy with stock in ACME, Inc. as Zenith, Inc.

Maybe I'm an odd duck of an investor, but my preference in stock is very idiosyncratic. I don't buy a share unless I understand the business very well and feel comfortable with that specific company's business model and ability to execute. For example, I don't see DO and RIG (two oil drillers that are often discussed as competitors), as being close substitutes.

I suppose Prof. Bainbridge would say that my voice is drowned out by the millions of day traders, but I don't think so. They're a constant baseline of noise --albeit liquidity-providing noise -- spread across the spectrum of stocks. Just as many sales as buys (tautology intended). The marginal difference in demand over a long enough run (i.e., weeks, not seconds or minutes) are professional investors and individuals like me. Or so I think.

save_the_rustbelt

I believe Don B. argues that cheating individual investors is the price to be paid for making capital allocation more efficient and effective. Wow.

Given that insider trading has been illegal for quite some time, the theories are being presented as facts, when in facts the theories are just theories.

(If we legalize insider trading, should all stocks trades require a consumer warning? Instantaneous disclosure by the insider or company? If numerous insiders conspire to manipulate trading patterns for self-enrichment, should that be a crime?)

Have manipulations by hedge funds become a bigger problem, making insider trading a null issue?

Bill Stepp

Given the inefficiency of derivatively informed trading, the market efficiency justification for insider trading loses much of its force.

Even if this is true, it has some effect. There is also the natural rights argument for insider trading, and the Spoonerian fact that the State is a band of robbers. (He called it a secret band of robbers.)
Also, your very first statement is problematic:
a stock is valued on its discounted expected cash flow, not on its expected stream of dividends. Dividends, after all, are paid out of cash flow, and usually amount to a small portion of it. And how could a compnay that
never paid a dividend be valued (e.g. Berkshire Hathaway), or that only started paying one after being in business for years (e.g. Microsoft)?

Henry G. Manne

Steve,

Your argument with Boudreaux seems wrong to me on at least three scores, though in all fairness I should acknowledge that most of the errors you make are quite common in these discussions, and economists are almost as guilty as law professors in getting this wrong.

First, your major argument for insider trading is, I think, grossly exaggerated in its significance. This is the argument that IT allows companies to keep justifiably proprietary information secret while letting the market price adjust values to the new but undisclosed information. This is so, but the circumstances in which this argument comes into play, as compared to garden variety insider trading cases, is tiny indeed. While this argument has some throw-away merit, it can hardly serve as the central defense of insider trading. That clearly must relate to the pricing efficiency notion.

However, before I get to that I want to make another criticism that I think is crucial to this entire debate and which you seem to ignore. Empirical data in this field is almost worthless! I know that is a surprising statement to apply to an area where we have perhaps the best data known to empirical economic science. But the data in all the studies of, for example, how quickly insiders' actions are reflected in stock prices,is woefully inadequate to the task. That is so for one simple and uncontracicted reason: all data was taken from the market after the regulation of IT by the SEC was well underway. Thus, mechanisms that undoubtedly existed (Cf. the "clearinghouse function of brokers" described in my 1966 book)in an unfettered IT regime had ostensibly disappeared by the 1970s, and the dissemination of information had become far, far less efficient than it was prior to 1961 (Cady Roberts). This would undoubtedly have had considerable influence on the results of empirical tests for rapidity of dissemination. Yet most if not all the empirical studies to which you refer involve this time period and thus tell us next to nothing about the speed with which the system worked pre-1961. It is also not surprising that these studies reach a variety of conflicting results. That is the nature of the use of inappropriate empirical data.

Finally to get to your most meaty (and erroneous) argument I turn to your position that insider trading does not really help guarantee an efficient market. This you say is so for two reasons, the first being that the elasticity of demand for any one company's stock is near zero since it is always substitutable (in diversified portfolios)for the very large number of shares that have the same Beta. Thus an insider's transactions are generally too small to affect the price.

The second argument, which follows from the first, is that derivatlively informed trading is the kind that must necessarily account for price changes when there is IT. And since derivative trading is necessarily less "perfect" than trading with real direct information, the price will generally not be the "correct" one, but only some approximation of it.

The problem with both these propositions (and here I certainly do not want to fault you for adopting what seems to be the conventional view in the economics literature and for not noticing how inappropriate it is for present purposes) is that it all assumes a mechanism for price formation that simply does not work most of the time. Here I have reference (and this is confirmed by your misleading reference to simplified traditional supply and demand analysis) to the implicit idea that a stock's price is formed by the marginal trader with information who arbitrages the market until the price is right.

That is standard price theory, and it even holds true in the case of a purchase of substantially all the stock of a given company (say in a takeover). But it is a far cry from reality, as I think some of the better behavioral economics now teaches us. There is clearly a different mechanism at work here, something that borrows on "the wisdom of crowds" notion of James Suroweicki, a kind of weighted averaging (nothing like the "consensus" you referred to) that results in a (miraculously?) efficient pricing scheme. Clearly there are these two mechanisms for formation of prices either one of which may doninate at any given moment. However, the latter is more likely to be operating in run-of-the-mill stock trading. Note further that the second has little or nothing to do with suppply and demand concepts and yet there is nothing in it that contradicts the findings of efficient market researchers. Insider trading long did and undoubtedly still does play a large role in keeping the stock market as efficient as it is and useful in all the ways that Don Boudreaux described.

MDF

I recognize that data on insider trading in the US is problematic, for the reasons you note above. However, couldn't empirical studies on this topic draw from data outside the US? In the UK, for example, the FSA has noted that fully a quarter of all mergers involve significant insider trading (notwithstanding laws against the practice). For that matter, even in the US, there is frequently substantial market movement leading up to the announcement of previously "material nonpublic information" -- certainly some of this data could be used, properly structured to take into account the activity's necessarily surreptitious nature. Or just an analysis of the German market in the early 1980s or the Taiwan or Shanghai markets today (where insider trading convictions are so infrequent as to be effectively nonexistent.)

Jason Reaves

I can see how the legalization of insider trading might (or might not) increase market efficiency, but the agency costs would be astronomical. Legalization would further erode the tenuous connection between executive pay and company performance by allowing feckless corporate captains to abandon ship before the passengers have even had the chance to line up for life vests. Some degree of insider trading is already commonplace, but the practice should remain illegal as the public needs the occasional perp walk (as with Rajaratnam) to maintain the pretense basic fairness.

Henry G. Manne

Jason Reaves, where have you been? Prior to the mid-1970s, there was no significant enforcement of insider trading laws anywhere in the world. Were agency costs astronomical then? I think not. Was there more of a disconnect between compensation and performance then? I think not. Did the public need pep talks to encourage false confidence, when everyone already knew that insider trading was a fact of financial life? No. Were markets less efficient before this silly non-enforceable law was pushed? I seriously doubt it. Did capital markets fail from investors' lack of confidence in the integrity of the market, as SEC blather would imply? Not that I know of. Just a little bit of historical knowledge can go a long way to clearing up the fog surrounding the insider trading debate.

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