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01/07/2010

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Ethan Elkind

And let's not forget that it was this governor whose last minute (and dishonest) campaign ads against reforming "three strikes" helped sink that measure. It's ridiculous to lock people up for life for a nonviolent felony. Not to mention expensive: almost $50K a year to house a prisoner in CA. Between those commercials and his irresponsible elimination of the vehicle license fee when he took office, a lot of the blame for California's fiscal mess can be laid at his Brentwood doorstep.

David

The 3 strikes law is a red herring. The much much much bigger issue here is why does California spend $50K/inmate compared to $32K/inmate elsewhere???? That strikes at the heart of the over-priced & under-delivering state government--all services, including education, roads, etc.

Again, the real problem with California (and many other state governments) is overspending on employees, pensions & benefits.

roux

I'll give the Obama worshipping hippy answer. Legalize pot, tax it and use the money for higher ed... (pun intended) Less pot heads in jail and more pot heads paying taxes.

Everlasting Phelps

You know, they could drop the percentage down that low without having to privatize anything -- just pardon all the political prisoners in the drug war. If you are there on simple possession or distribution without an additional violent charge, let them out.

Tom

Guaranteeing X% of the general fund revenue will go to education or prisons is not effective because of the volatility in general fund revenues. This volatility is based on the emphasis on personal income tax (and the progressive nature of it), and the fact that the California economy has very cyclic industries (e.g., high tech). Variations in those industries lead to big variations in personal income (especially at the top), which leads to wild variation in the general fund revenue.

This problem is evident if you look at general fund revenue in the last decade -- it went from $78B in 2000 to a low of $70B in 2002 up to $101B in 2007. Sacramento being Sacramento, they've never seen a tax dollar they couldn't spend (and then some), and so instead of reacting to the increase in state revenues in the middle of the decade as a short-term fluke, they jacked up spending. Revenues have fallen back down to earth, but now we've got all of this spending that we've gotten used to. Had we taken the 2004 general fund expenditures ($80B) and simply adjusted them for inflation & population growth over the last five years, we'd be running a surplus.

Richard McEnroe

Can we split the difference and just lock up the humanities, English Lit and Poli-Sci majors?

Because sometimes when you have two problems they can solve each other...

robotech master

They could easily reduce spending on prisons if they did something about the illegal alien problem and started taxing mexico for the costs their citizens burden the US and cali taxpayers.

DirtCrashr

As a product of the UC System I say that the UC system is already corrupt and bloated - take money from both and choke-off the Unions that are killing California.

Doug

If government did not provide prisons, would there be prisons? No. If government did not provide universities, would there be universities? Of course. One is an essential role of government, the other an option. One of the main problems with government in America today is that optional functions (education, welfare, healthcare) are crowding our esential ones (defense and public safety).

Allan

Here is the problem, the wrong people are fighting this battle for the schools. Why are prisons so strong? The union is strong.

What is the solution? Collective bargaining by professors. Ivory tower dwellers unite!!!

AD

"... Legalize pot, tax it and use the money for higher ed..."

Well, that will bring new meaning to grade-inflation.

Ryan Waxx

> It's ridiculous to lock people up for life for a nonviolent felony.

The fundamental, defining characteristic of people who have an anti-3-strikes agenda is that they cannot... cannot! bring themselves to describe the law in a fair and accurate manner.

That may be because any mature discussion about recidivism rates after the third felony turns against them.

The criminal is not being locked up for "a nonviolent felony", where "a" means "one" in the english language. It could hardly be a three strikes law if that were true.

Ryan Waxx

> They could easily reduce spending on prisons if they did something about the illegal alien problem and started taxing mexico for the costs their citizens burden the US and cali taxpayers.

Exactly how would we tax Mexico without annexing it first?

Vader

This is a no-brainer. College students will find ways to pay for their attendance at college, if the government doesn't. I doubt criminals will work very hard to find ways to pay for their prisons.

Paul

You know, it's probably better to fund prisons than colleges. Not because it's a good idea to lock people up, but because adding money to the higher education market through federal and state funding naturally drives up the market price of a college degree.

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