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08/05/2011

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M Lister

Without commenting on whether the proposed system in general is a good one or not, I think you're a bit off, or at least misleading, in these bits of your comments:

"Hence, the advice should go directly from the reviewer to the author, rather than being mediated through students. Third, making the decision dependent on peer review provides a strong incentive for authors to heed the advice and to improve the paper."

At least in philosophy, the field I know best, it's not true that the advice goes "directly from the reviewer to the author". It's mediated by the editor, who may have quite strong impact on the process, in all sorts of ways. (Some papers at some "peer reviewed" journals are either accepted or rejected jut by the editor, the editor decides who reviews, whether to send the comments to the author or not [it's not always done], whether to grand a "revise and re-submit" or something else, what to do about a split among reviewers, and so on. You're right that the proposed system is different in important ways, but the connection between reviewer and author is often, probably usually, highly mediated by the editor, not direct. Similarly on the next point, it is important to heed the advice of the reviewers. But it's ultimately the editor who decides in the end, and he or she may decide that a referee is unreasonable, or too easy, or so on. That's not so uncommon. So again, while the proposed system isn't quite like full peer review, I think you're over-stating your case here in quite clear ways.

William Baude

I am curious whether you ever agree to read drafts by and provide comments to junior scholars at other schools, and if so, why.

William Baude

(also, for what it is worth, in my time the Yale Law Journal did this all the time, albeit without advance consent, and virtually everyone we asked seemed pleased to do it. That is not to say you should provide your wisdom to the editors for free if you don't feel like it, but it may mean that your reaction is idiosyncratic. I think many professors enjoy opining.)

Steve Bainbridge

@William: of course. But it's economically rational to do so. (1) It ensures that the pup will cite me somewhere in the article. Which boosts my cite count. Remember deans and provosts can't read but they can count. (2) Tit for tat. Now the puppy owes me a favor. (3) When the appointments committee at UCLA asks me (as they do most every year) for the names of promising young laterals, I have a basis of information on which to make a recommendation.

William Baude

Makes sense to me, though I think many are adequately motivated by promoting their own ideas, and helping stamp out bad ones. Anyway, I am glad we never embarrassed ourselves by having th hutzpah to ask you for a consult!

FrankWChuckG

The advice you provide at the end is good. It's a shame that you chose to write an angry and bitter blog post rather than just provide it to the students who were trying, perhaps imperfectly, to make a broken system a bit better.

Jonah Gelbach

"My time is valuable. There are opportunity costs entailed in responding to your request."

Evidently the opportunity cost is not all that high!

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